Wednesday, November 26, 2025

BREAKING: BREC Leadership Crisis Deepens As “Table In The Room” Story Collapses Under Their Own Document And Robert’s Rules

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Brevard County’s Republican civil war has turned into a full-blown legitimacy crisis.

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On a local radio show this morning, State Committeewoman Marie Rogerson and Treasurer Randy Stackhouse tried to defend the November 24 “election” that seven people claim made John Dittmore BREC Chair and Josiah Gattle State Committeeman.

Their new story:

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  • The “election” did not happen in the hallway.
  • It supposedly happened “at a table in the room” while more than 150 BREC members sat there and “just were not paying attention” during “disorder” caused by Acting Chair Dave Fosdick.
  • They argue quorum is just “people present in the room, not necessarily voting,” so their secret vote is still valid even if almost nobody knew it was happening.
  • Stackhouse added that any hallway activity people saw was “after” they had already finished.

But that story does not match eyewitness accounts, and more importantly, it does not match Rogerson’s own written explanation of what happened.

Her “Nov 24 Meeting Rules” document, which she has circulated as a defense, describes a sequence of actions that cannot legally happen inside a meeting that is already in progress. Under Robert’s Rules of Order and the party’s own governing documents, the actions she describes amount to a separate, splinter meeting, not a valid continuation of the official BREC meeting.

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This is not just political drama. It is a procedural hijacking.

Below, this article does two things:

  1. Explains in plain language what happened on November 24.
  2. Gives BREC members and RPOF officials clear, cited arguments they can use if they challenge the “election.”

What Actually Happened On November 24

Under RPOF Rules of Procedure, Rule 6, once Chairman Rick Lacey was removed, Vice Chair Dave Fosdick became Acting Chair and had to call an election within 60 days.

  • Notice went out on November 2 and was later updated November 13.
  • That satisfied the County Model Constitution, Article VIII, which requires email notice to all members.

On November 24:

  • More than 150 members showed up in the main room.
  • That is well above the 40 percent quorum required by the BREC Bylaws (about 80 to 100 members, depending on the total count).
  • Fosdick called the meeting to order.

There were disputes about who counted as a member:

  • Some people had been reinstated by RPOF.
  • Some were being blocked locally.
  • Under Article XII of the County Model Constitution, RPOF has final authority, which overrides conflicting local games.

At some point, seven members, including Rogerson and Stackhouse, broke away from the main body. Witnesses say they moved to a side area or hallway, set up at tables with laptops and paperwork, and claimed they were “continuing” the meeting.

They say they:

  • Adopted rules.
  • Elected a temporary presiding officer (chair pro tem).
  • Held an “election” where they voted for Dittmore as BREC Chair and Gattle as State Committeeman (filling the vacancy created by Randy Fine’s resignation, which is valid under RPOF Constitution Article V).

Meanwhile, in the main room:

  • No ballots were distributed.
  • No nominations were announced.
  • No elections were conducted in front of the assembly.

A pro-faction newsletter later claimed everything was “legal and without incident.”

On November 25, Acting Chair Dave Fosdick sent a letter to members calling it what it was: a “secret meeting” that did not have quorum and did not lawfully elect anyone.

Today on the radio, Rogerson and Stackhouse tried to reframe it:

  • Now they claim they were “in the room at a table,” blaming “disorder” for the fact that no one noticed.
  • They insist quorum is based on how many people are in the room, not on how many voted or even knew an election had occurred.

Eyewitnesses are not buying it. They say the group was outside or off to the side, not at the center of the meeting, and that no election took place in front of the membership at any point before adjournment.

The Radio Defense Vs. Reality

On air, Rogerson and Stackhouse made several key claims:

  • Location: They say the election happened “at a table inside the room,” and that people describing a hallway scene only saw them after they were done.
  • Quorum twist: They say quorum just means enough bodies were in the room. It does not matter that 151 people did not hear motions, did not see ballots, and did not vote.
  • Takeover justification: They say the Acting Chair “refused to preside,” so they were allowed to proceed on their own using flexibility under Robert’s Rules.

Online, Florida GOP Chair Evan Power congratulated the new “leadership,” but the grassroots response on X is skeptical. Posts under tags like #BRECChaos and #BRECScandal openly mock the idea of a secret table vote inside a crowded room being called a legitimate election.

The biggest problem for Rogerson and Stackhouse is not social media. It is Rogerson’s own document. Here it is below for your reference:

Nov-24-Meeting-Rules

What Marie Rogerson Actually Wrote On November 24

Here are the key lines from Marie Rogerson’s “Nov 24 Meeting Rules” memo, which she uses to justify the election:

“The Acting Chair and Secretary refused to preside.”

“The Treasurer may call the meeting to order.”

“The assembly may elect a chair pro tem.”

“Rules were adopted.”

“The election proceeded.”

“The meeting continued without the Acting Chair.”

She also claims there is some “sample procedure” from RPOF that allows a chairman to be elected without quorum. That “sample” does not appear in the RPOF Rules of Procedure, Rule 6, and even if it exists, it cannot override the County Model Constitution and BREC Bylaws that require a quorum at a duly called meeting.

On the radio, she now claims all of this happened “at a table in the room.” But those written lines describe something very different:

They describe the start of a separate meeting, not the continuation of an existing one.

And that is where Robert’s Rules comes in.

Why Their “Table In The Room” Story Cannot Be True

Robert’s Rules of Order (12th Edition, adopted by reference through County Model Constitution Article X) tells us exactly how meetings, officers, and elections must work.

Rogerson’s description fails at every point.

A. “The Acting Chair refused to preside”

Quote:

“The Acting Chair and Secretary refused to preside.”

Under RONR §47:8–13, if a chair refuses to preside, the assembly must handle it openly:

  • A member must obtain the floor.
  • A motion must be made to elect a chair pro tem.
  • The motion must be seconded.
  • Members have the right to debate.
  • The entire assembly must vote and hear the result.

That cannot happen quietly at a side table. It must happen in front of everyone.

No such motion was heard. No such vote was taken.

So either:

  • The Acting Chair did not legally “refuse to preside,” or
  • The refusal was never handled by the assembly, which means the Acting Chair remained the presiding officer.

Either way, seven people at a table cannot privately decide they are now in charge.

B. “The Treasurer may call the meeting to order”

Quote:

“The Treasurer may call the meeting to order.”

This is the most damaging line in her entire document.

Calling a meeting to order is something that happens before the meeting starts, not in the middle of it.

  • RONR §3:1: “A meeting begins when the presiding officer calls it to order.”
  • RONR §47:1: After the meeting is called to order, only the presiding officer or a chair elected by the assembly may preside.

On November 24, Acting Chair Fosdick called the meeting to order in the main room. The meeting had already begun.

That means:

  • The Treasurer cannot “call the meeting to order” again in the same meeting.
  • If he did “call a meeting to order,” it was a separate meeting with a separate group.

Her own words show the seven were starting their own session, not continuing the official one.

C. “The assembly may elect a chair pro tem”

Quote:

“The assembly may elect a chair pro tem.”

That is true in theory. But what matters is whether it actually happened.

Under RONR §47:12–14, to elect a chair pro tem, the assembly must:

  • Hear a motion.
  • Hear a second.
  • Debate if needed.
  • Vote.
  • Hear the result announced.

There is no claim that any of that happened in front of the 150 plus people in the room. No one reports any such vote.

Saying “the assembly may elect” does not mean the assembly did.

If no vote happened in the room, no chair pro tem was lawfully elected.

D. “Rules were adopted”

Quote:

“Rules were adopted.”

Under RONR §10:1 and §4:2, §4:12, adopting rules requires:

  • A motion stated clearly and audibly.
  • The rules, or at least their substance, read or explained.
  • An opportunity for debate.
  • A vote of the assembly.

Again, none of this occurred in front of the members.

No one in the room heard any proposed rules read out loud.
No one heard a motion.
No one voted.

That means no rules were adopted in the meeting. Any “rules” seven people agreed to at a table were adopted privately, outside the assembly, which has no legal effect.

E. “The election proceeded”

Quote:

“The election proceeded.”

The BREC Bylaws require:

“All elections shall be by secret ballot.”

Robert’s Rules fills in the details:

  • RONR §45:20: Secret ballot means written ballots.
  • RONR §45:33–36: Ballots must be distributed to all eligible members, collected by tellers, counted, and results reported to the assembly.

On November 24, none of that happened in the main room.

  • No ballots went out.
  • No tellers were appointed.
  • No results were announced.

You cannot have a valid secret ballot election without ballots, tellers, and a reported result.

So no matter how many times they say “the election proceeded,” there was no valid election held in the meeting.

F. “The meeting continued without the Acting Chair”

Quote:

“The meeting continued without the Acting Chair.”

Under RONR §40:9, a minority cannot “continue” a meeting apart from the assembly. The “assembly” is defined in RONR §1:1–3 as the body acting through the will of the majority.

If 150 plus BREC members:

  • did not hear what was happening,
  • did not vote on rules,
  • did not vote on officers,

then the meeting did not “continue” without the Acting Chair.

Instead, a small group held their own session that had no authority over the official meeting.

Section 5: The Quorum Spin

Rogerson and Stackhouse keep repeating that quorum is just “who is in the room,” not who votes. They cite Robert’s Rules and their own Facebook posts to say that quorum is based on physical presence.

It is only half true.

Robert’s Rules does say quorum is based on the number “present,” but present has a specific meaning.

  • RONR §40:1–6: Members are “present” for quorum and business if they are in a position to hear the proceedings and take part in business.

That means:

  • A room full of people who are never told an election is happening are not “present” for that election.
  • A group of seven whispering at a table is not “the assembly,” even if they are technically in the same room.

BREC’s Bylaws require 40 percent of all members for a quorum. Even if we ignored that and used a majority default, seven is not enough.

Quorum belongs to the meeting, not to a table.

Why This Election Is Void

Taken together, the facts and the rules show:

  • The official BREC meeting was called to order by Acting Chair Fosdick in the main room.
  • The seven did not lawfully remove him as presiding officer.
  • They did not lawfully elect a chair pro tem.
  • They did not lawfully adopt rules.
  • They did not lawfully conduct a secret ballot election.
  • They did not conduct any of this business in front of the assembly.

Under:

  • Robert’s Rules of Order
  • The BREC Bylaws
  • The County Model Constitution
  • RPOF Rules of Procedure

the “election” carried out by seven people at a table or in a hallway is a nullity. It has no legal effect.

Vacancies remain:

  • The Chair position is still vacant and must be filled by a valid election of the full committee.
  • The State Committeeman vacancy created by Randy Fine’s resignation still exists and must also be filled lawfully.

How Members Can Challenge This

If BREC members or RPOF officials want to challenge this, here are the key arguments and citations you can use:

  1. Meeting cannot be called to order twice
    • RONR §3:1 and §47:1
    • Once Fosdick called the meeting to order, the Treasurer could not “call it to order” again.
  2. Only the assembly can replace the presiding officer
    • RONR §47:8–14
    • No assembly-wide motion or vote occurred.
  3. Rules must be adopted by the assembly, not seven people at a table
    • RONR §10:1 and §4:2, §4:12
  4. All BREC elections must be by secret ballot
    • BREC Bylaws, secret ballot rule
    • RONR §45:20, §45:33–36
  5. A minority cannot “continue” a meeting away from the assembly
    • RONR §40:9 and §1:1–3
  6. Quorum requires members to be able to hear and participate
    • RONR §40:1–6

If this matter goes to the RPOF Grievance Committee under RPOF Rule 22, or to the State Executive Committee for final authority under Article XII of the County Model Constitution, these are the arguments and citations that need to be front and center.

Lastly: The “Three Missed Meetings” Claim Is Not A Rule That Can Be Changed

Lastly, Stackhouse claimed on the radio that the “rule” about members losing their positions after missing three consecutive meetings had been changed or no longer applied. That is false.

It is not simply a local “rule.” It is Florida law.

Florida Statute 103.131 states that every political party office is deemed vacant in certain cases, including when a member:

“fails to attend, without good and sufficient reason, three consecutive meetings, regular or called, of the committee of which he or she is a member.”

That is F.S. 103.131(8).

This is not something BREC or even RPOF can quietly waive or “update” in a bylaw. It is state law that applies to all political party offices in Florida.

If any of the seven who conducted the November 24 “election” had already missed three consecutive properly noticed meetings without good cause, then their seats were already vacant under Florida law. That would mean they were not legally members of the committee, could not vote, and could not hold office on November 24.

That issue alone is grounds for a further challenge and a detailed review of attendance records and notice.

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